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T O P I C R E V I E WhannaramaaAll I see is lots of red. There's nothing exciting going on in the 5th house, maybe the 8th but that's it. Also their time of birth is unknown. smh. hannaramaaTarot or Horary (but I'm stronger at Tarot) reading in return.LoadedPistilCan i see the aspect chart? There's some good here. The Stelliums are in good places. The aspects look bad. Those are all squares. *sigh*------------------Leo ♌️ Sun Scorpio ♏ MoonCancer ♋ RisingSvātī NakshatrahannaramaaEdit.littlecloudYea. HorridlittlecloudYea. Horridhannaramaa quote:Originally posted by littlecloud:Yea. HorridRight. Not even Sun trine Moon or Moon trine Venus could save us… >.<hannaramaaIs it better suited for a work relationship, friendship or dating? littlecloudI feel like any relationship with this person would be difficult. There's just to many conflicts in the way you both think. The only way a friendship would would work is if you both are accepting of each others differences. I have a friend now for about 10 years and we have squares galore (not as concentrated as this tho) but it works for the most part because we see each other sparingly and accept that we have a fundamental difference in our thinking and actions. I don't try to change her and she doesn't try to change me. I do my best to be a good listener and supportive as I'm sure she does for me but it does tend to feel one-sided at times which is likely due to our Sun square sun. It's difficult to speak about the possibility of a relationship because with a chart like this a relationship likely wouldn't even begin. hannaramaaIt did begin though, it's just confusing emotionally and I wondered what in synastry explained that since we should have the Sun trine Moon, Moon / Venus and something else (one of the few) positive aspects.kaiannaPost up the composite, it isnt horrible, you have attraction aspects and his ascendant on ur ic, that is auspicious, the composite may alleviate some difficult aspects as it tends to be more profound than the synastryhannaramaa quote:Originally posted by kaianna:Post up the composite, it isn't horrible, you have attraction aspects and his ascendant on ur ic, that is auspicious, the composite may alleviate some difficult aspects as it tends to be more profound than the synastryAt this point I find him really frustrating, but I want to understand why from the charts. FireMoonLol Cap Sun Sag Moon, it's true we can be frustrating, sorry you're dealing with that... And yeah those are some intense squares. But what stands out most to me are the unaspected planets, his Saturn and Pluto, your Mars. I've never had outer planets unaspected in synastry so I'm curious about that.. Do you feel like he withholds "power" (pluto) by not committing or being reliable (saturn)? It could go either way with unaspected planets tho but with your Mars it seems like one of you would always be doing the "chasing" but maybe you take turns or the timing just doesn't add up... I've had Mars and Merc unaspected and understand it can be really difficult. The connection always seems just out of reach, but you still feel the *need* to keep coming back for more lolI've also had composite moon square Pluto which can be really intense and difficult to let go of. Plus you have composite Sun-Merc-Venus conjunct which gives an underlying sense of friendship/caring for each other which can just make it more difficult to really break awayhannaramaa quote:Originally posted by FireMoon:Lol Cap Sun Sag Moon, it's true we can be frustrating, sorry you're dealing with that... And yeah those are some intense squares. But what stands out most to me are the unaspected planets, his Saturn and Pluto, your Mars. I've never had outer planets unaspected in synastry so I'm curious about that.. Do you feel like he withholds "power" (pluto) by not committing or being reliable (saturn)? It could go either way with unaspected planets tho but with your Mars it seems like one of you would always be doing the "chasing" but maybe you take turns or the timing just doesn't add up... I've had Mars and Merc unaspected and understand it can be really difficult. The connection always seems just out of reach, but you still feel the *need* to keep coming back for more lolI've also had composite moon square Pluto which can be really intense and difficult to let go of. Plus you have composite Sun-Merc-Venus conjunct which gives an underlying sense of friendship/caring for each other which can just make it more difficult to really break awayOMG about the second paragraph. YES. YES. YES. YES.It's been so hard for me, but he seems like he could care less. When I FIRST met him before we liked each other he was so… simple. And now it's like he pushed me away even though I'm not trying that hard. I don't think he'd be difficult if he was older… and I think it's the overload of Capricorn in his chart. All the conjunctions make him like an Aries. I don't feel like he does it consciously. What I DO feel is he does things to make me insecure on purpose, to get a reaction or for whatever reason and THAT I don't understand. I kept wondering why he wasn't being reliable with me! Yes, right now I'm the one doing the chasing. Before, he was, so it may be a switch. I also always felt like the "man" in the relationship because he was always asking what I was thinking and feeling, and I was afraid to tell him 'cause I thought it'd scare him off. He was always expressive towards me though. Sigh.How to beat it though? And do I affect him as strongly?ChiemiIdk if this is even beneficial to your topic, but I just wanna say that I noticed that your NN is conjunct the composite Sun/Mercury/Venus stellium in Pisces while his NN is square to it. I'm a noob at synastry and composite readings but when I compared natal chart placements to the composite I noticed that. I guess this relationship somehow helps your life path (if you put any weight into NN/SN stuff). Sorry if this was random and useless though, just something I noticed. hannaramaa quote:Originally posted by Chiemi:Idk if this is even beneficial to your topic, but I just wanna say that I noticed that your NN is conjunct the composite Sun/Mercury/Venus stellium in Pisces while his NN is square to it. I'm a noob at synastry and composite readings but when I compared natal chart placements to the composite I noticed that. I guess this relationship somehow helps your life path (if you put any weight into NN/SN stuff). Sorry if this was random and useless though, just something I noticed. No it's not useless Chiemi! I've seen you post around Lindaland, don't sell yourself short.Well, he kind of did. I can be a really vengeful person and argumentative and I notice I keep control over that side of myself with him, even though he has done many things to provoke it (unknowingly.) Yes, there was many milestones in our short relationships, surprisingly. I don't think the aspects his NN makes count because his birth time is unknown.FireMoon quote:Originally posted by hannaramaa: [b]OMG about the second paragraph. YES. YES. YES. YES.It's been so hard for me, but he seems like he could care less. When I FIRST met him before we liked each other he was so… simple. And now it's like he pushed me away even though I'm not trying that hard. I don't think he'd be difficult if he was older… and I think it's the overload of Capricorn in his chart. All the conjunctions make him like an Aries. I don't feel like he does it consciously. What I DO feel is he does things to make me insecure on purpose, to get a reaction or for whatever reason and THAT I don't understand. I kept wondering why he wasn't being reliable with me! Yes, right now I'm the one doing the chasing. Before, he was, so it may be a switch. I also always felt like the "man" in the relationship because he was always asking what I was thinking and feeling, and I was afraid to tell him 'cause I thought it'd scare him off. He was always expressive towards me though. Sigh.How to beat it though? And do I affect him as strongly?[/B]Hmm yeah it could be an immaturity thing... If he's doing things to make you feel insecure it could be that he's actually the one who is intimidated, and it's his way of "testing" you or trying to have the upper hand.. Venus conjunct mars would make him intense in relationships but probably not the best at being diplomatic..Idk about Pluto and Saturn, but I've had unaspected mars in synastry twice and both times were very push-pull. I also felt like the directness/aggressive side of mars wasn't really appreciated, like I was supposed to be more of a "girl" in the relationship but couldn't bring myself to do it anyway lol.. So maybe that has something to do with it, but I'm sure if you back off he'll be back to chasing you again...Anyway it's unfortunate you don't know his birth time, but with his planets in your 7th and 8th house I can see why you'd feel like it's worth pursuing. And the composite has some binding aspects, Moon square Pluto is hard to take lightly Anyway, good luck and sorry I couldn't be more help...
------------------Leo ♌️ Sun Scorpio ♏ MoonCancer ♋ RisingSvātī Nakshatra
quote:Originally posted by littlecloud:Yea. Horrid
Right. Not even Sun trine Moon or Moon trine Venus could save us… >.<
It's difficult to speak about the possibility of a relationship because with a chart like this a relationship likely wouldn't even begin.
quote:Originally posted by kaianna:Post up the composite, it isn't horrible, you have attraction aspects and his ascendant on ur ic, that is auspicious, the composite may alleviate some difficult aspects as it tends to be more profound than the synastry
At this point I find him really frustrating, but I want to understand why from the charts.
I've also had composite moon square Pluto which can be really intense and difficult to let go of. Plus you have composite Sun-Merc-Venus conjunct which gives an underlying sense of friendship/caring for each other which can just make it more difficult to really break away
quote:Originally posted by FireMoon:Lol Cap Sun Sag Moon, it's true we can be frustrating, sorry you're dealing with that... And yeah those are some intense squares. But what stands out most to me are the unaspected planets, his Saturn and Pluto, your Mars. I've never had outer planets unaspected in synastry so I'm curious about that.. Do you feel like he withholds "power" (pluto) by not committing or being reliable (saturn)? It could go either way with unaspected planets tho but with your Mars it seems like one of you would always be doing the "chasing" but maybe you take turns or the timing just doesn't add up... I've had Mars and Merc unaspected and understand it can be really difficult. The connection always seems just out of reach, but you still feel the *need* to keep coming back for more lolI've also had composite moon square Pluto which can be really intense and difficult to let go of. Plus you have composite Sun-Merc-Venus conjunct which gives an underlying sense of friendship/caring for each other which can just make it more difficult to really break away
OMG about the second paragraph. YES. YES. YES.
YES.
It's been so hard for me, but he seems like he could care less. When I FIRST met him before we liked each other he was so… simple. And now it's like he pushed me away even though I'm not trying that hard.
I don't think he'd be difficult if he was older… and I think it's the overload of Capricorn in his chart. All the conjunctions make him like an Aries. I don't feel like he does it consciously. What I DO feel is he does things to make me insecure on purpose, to get a reaction or for whatever reason and THAT I don't understand. I kept wondering why he wasn't being reliable with me! Yes, right now I'm the one doing the chasing. Before, he was, so it may be a switch. I also always felt like the "man" in the relationship because he was always asking what I was thinking and feeling, and I was afraid to tell him 'cause I thought it'd scare him off. He was always expressive towards me though.
Sigh.
How to beat it though? And do I affect him as strongly?
I'm a noob at synastry and composite readings but when I compared natal chart placements to the composite I noticed that. I guess this relationship somehow helps your life path (if you put any weight into NN/SN stuff).
Sorry if this was random and useless though, just something I noticed.
quote:Originally posted by Chiemi:Idk if this is even beneficial to your topic, but I just wanna say that I noticed that your NN is conjunct the composite Sun/Mercury/Venus stellium in Pisces while his NN is square to it. I'm a noob at synastry and composite readings but when I compared natal chart placements to the composite I noticed that. I guess this relationship somehow helps your life path (if you put any weight into NN/SN stuff). Sorry if this was random and useless though, just something I noticed.
No it's not useless Chiemi! I've seen you post around Lindaland, don't sell yourself short.
Well, he kind of did. I can be a really vengeful person and argumentative and I notice I keep control over that side of myself with him, even though he has done many things to provoke it (unknowingly.)
Yes, there was many milestones in our short relationships, surprisingly. I don't think the aspects his NN makes count because his birth time is unknown.
quote:Originally posted by hannaramaa: [b]OMG about the second paragraph. YES. YES. YES. YES.It's been so hard for me, but he seems like he could care less. When I FIRST met him before we liked each other he was so… simple. And now it's like he pushed me away even though I'm not trying that hard. I don't think he'd be difficult if he was older… and I think it's the overload of Capricorn in his chart. All the conjunctions make him like an Aries. I don't feel like he does it consciously. What I DO feel is he does things to make me insecure on purpose, to get a reaction or for whatever reason and THAT I don't understand. I kept wondering why he wasn't being reliable with me! Yes, right now I'm the one doing the chasing. Before, he was, so it may be a switch. I also always felt like the "man" in the relationship because he was always asking what I was thinking and feeling, and I was afraid to tell him 'cause I thought it'd scare him off. He was always expressive towards me though. Sigh.How to beat it though? And do I affect him as strongly?[/B]
How to beat it though? And do I affect him as strongly?[/B]
Hmm yeah it could be an immaturity thing... If he's doing things to make you feel insecure it could be that he's actually the one who is intimidated, and it's his way of "testing" you or trying to have the upper hand.. Venus conjunct mars would make him intense in relationships but probably not the best at being diplomatic..
Idk about Pluto and Saturn, but I've had unaspected mars in synastry twice and both times were very push-pull. I also felt like the directness/aggressive side of mars wasn't really appreciated, like I was supposed to be more of a "girl" in the relationship but couldn't bring myself to do it anyway lol.. So maybe that has something to do with it, but I'm sure if you back off he'll be back to chasing you again...
Anyway it's unfortunate you don't know his birth time, but with his planets in your 7th and 8th house I can see why you'd feel like it's worth pursuing. And the composite has some binding aspects, Moon square Pluto is hard to take lightly
Anyway, good luck and sorry I couldn't be more help...
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